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Why are we going to the ER for weed? Docs talk on emergency room visits

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For a seasoned cannabis user, it might seem a little strange that people are traveling to the emergency room for issues related to marijuana.

Unlike alcohol or pharmaceuticals — which bring hundreds of thousands to the ER each year — no one has ever died from cannabis use alone, a fact the federal government backs up. Overdosing on an edible or hash-dab can be a truly miserable experience, but currently the primary remedy in most cannabis cases is time and relaxation.

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So why go to the hospital?

Recent statistics show there has been a significant leap in the number of people showing up to the emergency room for marijuana — particularly in legalized states. Does this mean that the marijuana health epidemic prohibitionists warned us about has finally arrived? Or can all this be chalked up to inexperienced straights trying pot for the first time, freaking out and not knowing what to do other than go straight to the hospital?

“The most common reason someone goes to the ER for a marijuana reaction is anxiety,” says Dr. Larry Bedard, former president of the American College of Emergency Physicians, via phone. “Part of an anxiety reaction is you have an impending sense of doom. So a lot of people come in (to the hospital) thinking they’re dying, when they’re actually having a panic attack. That’s very common. If you’re smoking a joint and suddenly you can’t breathe and your chest feels tight and you start to get numb and tingly, you start to think you’ve been poisoned.

“What happens is you’re hyperventilating, which changes the pH of your blood, and you can get a form of tetany, and that’s why people get numb and tingly. So a lot of the time you have to slow their breathing down. Usually people just need reassurance, talking them down.”

This was seemingly the case last October when a 22-year-old from Ohio called 911 to say he was “too high” and “couldn’t feel anything,” later declining medical attention when police found him curled up with Doritos and cookies. Similarly, Maureen Dowd’s infamous edible nightmare in a Denver hotel had the New York Times columnist thinking, “I had died and no one was telling me.” After later realizing she’d ingested far too much of the THC-infused edible, Dowd noted “the fact that I was not a regular marijuana smoker made me more vulnerable, and I should have known better.”

(Oliver Berg, AFP/Getty Images file)

Curiously, Bedard says that out in Marin County, California — where he was an emergency room physician for two decades — “we have one of the highest rates of marijuana-usage in California,” yet despite the high concentration of cannabis consumers, he adds that “in 20 years I saw less than ten patients who came in where their chief complaint was marijuana.”

It’s likely that the old-school cannathusiasts of Marin County were, for the most part, well practiced in the art of being high. This, combined with a hesitancy to admit to a doctor that you use illegal drugs, could explain why so few visited the hospital for marijuana problems.

Yet in Colorado and Washington, where legalized recreational marijuana has made converts of those who’ve never tried it (or haven’t in decades), doctors say these visits are a regular occurrence.

“We see multiple cases a day involving some sort of reaction to marijuana,” says Dr. Chris Colwell, chief of emergency medicine at Denver Health. “Whereas before (legalization), I’d go several days without seeing any of this.”

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Dr. Alexander Garrard of the Washington Poison Center (WAPC) says he’s seen a steady increase in the number of marijuana-related incidents in his state’s hospitals over the last 10 years, with large bumps often correlating with changes to cannabis laws, and areas with a high concentration of calls overlapping with those containing retail dispensaries.

“Because it is legal here, there is more product available,” says Garrard. “There are a large portion of adults that used marijuana 30 or 40 years ago, and want to try it now. But marijuana is much stronger today, so if you use the same amount now you did then you will likely have an adverse effect.”

While Washington technically legalized recreational marijuana in 2012, when they saw 162 calls to the poison center, the state’s dispensaries weren’t up and running until mid-2014, when that number rose to 245, according to Garrard. As of November 2015, there had been 238 calls to the poison center for issues directly related to marijuana.

Similarly, the Rocky Mountain Poison and Drug Center reports there were 127 calls for marijuana-related issues in Colorado in 2013, but that number increased to 223 in 2014. By October 2015, the center had seen 188 calls on the subject.

Both organizations note that while these numbers represent a trend, they are grossly under-representative, as they’re only cases where people or doctors call in to the poison center for assistance. Once a doctor knows how to handle the situation, he or she might stop calling to report the cases.

So why are we seeing an uptick in emergency room visits for pot now in Colorado and Washington, despite this never being an issue even in areas with heavy cannabis use in the past?

A crowd watches as marijuana is divvied up during Los Angeles’ first-ever cannabis farmers market at the West Coast Collective medical marijuana dispensary on July 4, 2014. (Frederic J. Brown, AFP/Getty Images

“There are a number of different reasons (for the increase),” says Garrard, via phone. “Because it is legal people are more comfortable calling, and there’s more product available now. … For 2015, a majority of the cases have been in the 13-to-19 age group, and that’s been consistent going back to 2012.”

Garrard says there is no data collected on whether or not patients have had any long-term experience with marijuana, though anecdotal reports suggest that it is the novices who seek out hospital services when they’re having a bad trip — and, by definition, most young people are inexperienced in pretty much everything.

The proliferation of edible marijuana products (cakes, cookies, sodas, etc.) — which was typically a novelty item for stoners in the past, but is now a well-marketed and tasty pillar of the industry — can also be an attractive alternative to smoking for novice users, who often commit the common mistake of eating the recommended dose, not feeling anything 20 minutes later, and then eating way too much.

So how do doctors respond to these situations?

In extreme cases, Bedard says it’s common to give a patient some kind of sedative, like Xanax or Valium (though if the patient also has alcohol in their system, these drugs are avoided as they can create actual life-threatening issues). In a majority of cases, though, it’s a matter of telling the patient that they aren’t dying and keeping an eye on them until they feel better — a service that could be accomplished by a friend or neighbor (who likely won’t send you a hefty bill weeks later).

Packages of marijuana labeled for recreational use at Northern Lights Cannabis Co in Edgewater. (Seth McConnell, Denver Post file)

Typically, adults aren’t admitted into the hospital strictly for marijuana complications; they are seen by doctors, but don’t stay the night, experts say. With kids and marijuana, though, it’s a different story — particularly when it comes to edibles.

“We are seeing more toddlers who are ingesting marijuana edibles (coming into the hospital),” says Dr. Suzan Mazor, director of toxicology at Seattle Children’s Hospital in an email interview. In her experience, she’s witnessed toddlers on edibles “who come in sleepy, almost comatose, wobbly, not able to hold his head up, not able to eat or drink normally, needing to stay in hospital for (intravenous) fluids and to be watched closely until he wakes up and is able to walk and feed.”

Mazor says that sedatives are not given to children in these instances, partially because they are often already extremely sleepy. She says the children have their heart and respiratory functions monitored, and may be given oxygen, IV fluids or anti-vomiting medicine.

So taking a child who has ingested cannabis to the emergency room is the right thing to do. Even though there are no reported cases of children dying from ingesting cannabis, the fragility of a child’s mind and body warrants professional monitoring while the marijuana passes through their system.

Protecting children from accidental marijuana exposure has been a common argument in the fight against the legalization of marijuana, and reported statistics — such as a July 2015 news release from health officials in King County, Washington, that noted a 73 percent increase in reported edible marijuana intoxication between 2013 and 2014 and that roughly 30 percent of reports in 2014 were for children age 5 or younger — are strong ammunition for these campaigns.

Marijuana plants hang in the drying room of a Denver medical marijuana dispensary.

But stats like these often irk marijuana advocates, who believe they are not put in perspective.

Looking closer at the data provided by the Washington Poison Center, in 2014 there were 38 edible intoxication reports for adults and children in King County, Washington’s most populous county and home to Seattle; 11 were for children age 5 or younger. And these are the numbers of marijuana intoxications reported directly to WAPC — not the number of those admitted to the hospital.

“The numbers bear out that this is not a significant problem,” says Paul Armentano, deputy director for the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML), via phone. Armentano doesn’t think that this issue isn’t worth paying attention to, but he notes that “far more children are hospitalized for the inadvertent ingestion of those laundry detergent pods than for cannabis ingestion.”

Between 2012 and 2013, more than 17,000 children under 6 years old nationwide were injured due to ingestion of the candy-colored detergent packets.

Armentano also points out that often the data used in these campaigns can be misleading, like in the case of a Drug Abuse Warning Network study that showed 455,668 cases of U.S. emergency room visits for marijuana in 2011. That sounds like a lot, until you consider that not all of these incidents were directly related to marijuana — rather the patients had mentioned recently using marijuana.

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